Margus Voll August 21, 2018 Share August 21, 2018 I have had it in my gut feel for a long time but here it is shown as well: https://vimeo.com/album/5295445 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emily Haine August 21, 2018 Share August 21, 2018 Different mathematics, the operators are way more sophisticated in the Filmlight systems in my opinion. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Margus Voll August 21, 2018 Author Share August 21, 2018 I had the same feeling for a long time now but did not have anything to prove my feel about it. This one illustrates it well. I figured it while testing same shot in different systems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Winker August 21, 2018 Share August 21, 2018 What controls are these in reference to? The Log controls? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Minuth August 21, 2018 Share August 21, 2018 log / film-style controls. Nice comparison 🤙 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adéyẹmi September 7, 2018 Share September 7, 2018 On 8/21/2018 at 10:40 AM, Margus Voll said: I had the same feeling for a long time now but did not have anything to prove my feel about it. This one illustrates it well. I figured it while testing same shot in different systems. How different are these results to each other in your own opinion, kindly expantiate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Margus Voll September 10, 2018 Author Share September 10, 2018 It is more gut feeling for me how little i had to struggle or how fast i had the results. Sure it is not very specific but this is how it "feels" to me for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jussi Rovanperä September 10, 2018 Share September 10, 2018 (edited) IMO those resolve default ranges for the log tools are useless, I set both ranges to the same value, so the curve is softer, and only use shadows and highlights. It beats me why they haven't added an adjustable rolloff. Edited September 10, 2018 by Jussi Rovanperä typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luca Di Gioacchino September 10, 2018 Share September 10, 2018 Jussi, do you set ranges to the same values all the time, regardless of the clip, or on a per shot basis? Sorry if it sounds like a stupid question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jussi Rovanperä September 11, 2018 Share September 11, 2018 Not a stupid question Usually I set it where the mid gray is, and keep the same range settings for the whole scene. If the pivot is set to same region, then the contrast control and the log shadows / highlights work together nicely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luca Di Gioacchino September 12, 2018 Share September 12, 2018 Thanks, Jussi. Just trying to learn, is all. What specific numbers do you set them to, if I can ask? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jussi Rovanperä September 14, 2018 Share September 14, 2018 A typical normal exposure would be around 0.4-0.45, darker shots would be 0.2 - 0.3. But there are a few different methods of how to set the exposures and ranges in a grade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Margus Voll September 18, 2018 Author Share September 18, 2018 That bit seesm so much more clear in Baselight as all communication is done in stops and not in some "random" numbers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Margus Voll September 19, 2018 Author Share September 19, 2018 After hands on demo it actually feels more easy to grade in Baselight. Once you get the UI and do not get scared all the color science bits it seems actually easier to use to get your results faster. I think parts of it comes with frequency separation in cases where you do not need to fiddle with keys and such much. One demo shot was exactly that, a guy on the snow with sunset and it could be adjusted in very few steps without any masking involved. Seems extremely powerful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jussi Rovanperä September 19, 2018 Share September 19, 2018 2 hours ago, Margus Voll said: After hands on demo it actually feels more easy to grade in Baselight. Once you get the UI and do not get scared all the color science bits it seems actually easier to use to get your results faster. I think parts of it comes with frequency separation in cases where you do not need to fiddle with keys and such much. One demo shot was exactly that, a guy on the snow with sunset and it could be adjusted in very few steps without any masking involved. Seems extremely powerful. You're talking about base grade here? I think a important point is that the tone curve is tweaked in Lab, so even if the curve becames quite flat at some areas, it doesn't affect the color. The same curve in RGB would gray out those flat areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Margus Voll September 19, 2018 Author Share September 19, 2018 Yes that was exactly what i meant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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